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My point here is not to get sidetracked in the largely irrelevant biology of whether women can, somehow, discriminate against the sperm of a rapist. I would rather highlight the fact that the way in which women discriminate against men whose children they do not want to carry is by not having sex with them in the first place. A measure of the extent to which a society deserves to consider itself civilized can be gained from the extent to which its citizens recognize this fundamental and inviolable right.

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As a rape survivor, I am reeling from your recent statement where you said you misspoke when you said that women do not get pregnant from legitimate rape, and that you were speaking "off the cuff."

Clarification. You didn't make some glib throw away remark. You made a very specific ignorant statement clearly indicating you have no awareness of what it means to be raped. And not a casual statement, but one made with the intention of legislating the experience of women who have been raped. Perhaps more terrifying: it was a window into the psyche of the GOP.


Someone said to me on Facebook yesterday:
"Oh, come on... Atkin is an idiot and said something stupid, so it means we need to discuss this for weeks now??? Nonsense! Yes, rape was present in the past and will occur in the future, and it is a problem, but not for the whole world to discuss idiotic phrases. My opinion."

And here's my answer:
It's not just about how the female body will reject the sperm in the event of a rape and the victim will not get pregnant. It's about the use of term "legitimate rape". It's about the use of the term "forced rape" as if there are rapes that are unforced. This term appeared in a bill to limit funding for abortion and this bill was co sponsored by Akin and the current VP nominee - Paul Ryan. It's about the fact that these terms are being used and bills like that are being sponsored and passed in various states and in the US Congress. It's about re-victimization of rape victims. It's about you and me and our daughters.

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Date: 2012-08-23 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geneus.livejournal.com
Помимо отношения Айкена к абортам, само его невежество должно вызывать и избирателей шок.

Если бы кандидат публично сказал, что булки растут на деревьях или что вечный двигатель возможен - я не стал бы за него голосовать, будь он демократ, республиканец или основатель собственной партии. Так как сейчас-то его оборвали и уязвили, но по другим вопросам, где его невежество не меньше, он будет принимать законы, которые нам придется выполнять: например о выделении фондов на построение вечного двигателя или субсидии фермерам, выращивающим булки.

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Date: 2012-08-23 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_milashka/
Согласна.
И страшно то, что таких как он там - десятки! На данный момент, при такой политической разрозненности американских избирателей, выбирают одних маргиналов. Нормальный, умный, взвешенный, рациональный человек не имеет шанса быть избранным.

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Date: 2012-08-23 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geneus.livejournal.com
Странно, конечно, что американское образование довело страну до такого упадка политической системы.

Что бы сам человек не думал о том или ином вопросе, но он по крайней мере должен понимать, что ему лучше, если вопрос будут решать ОСВЕДОМЛЕННЫЕ люди, а не таки же невежи, как он.

Но не понимает: сказалась американская поп-культура с ее многочисленными перепевами сюжета об Иванушке Дурачке / Форресте Гампе: который ничего не знает - нифига не делает - но всем понятно, что ему в конце повезет: его полюбит принцесса (принц), он выиграет в лотерею, получит наследство, его случайно изберут Римским папой, в конце-концов его переедет трак и ему выплатят огромную компенсацию.

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Date: 2012-08-23 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_milashka/
Чего странного, когда есть такое: http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-dollars

То же самое происходит в Канзасе, и в Техасе и пр.

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Date: 2012-08-23 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ygalperina.livejournal.com
=== This term appeared in a bill to limit funding for abortion and this bill was co sponsored by Akin and the current VP nominee - Paul Ryan. ===

Olya,

Regarding the bill to limit federal funding for abortion. I would like to state that I am not against abortions. I am for women to decide for themselves. The bill, however, is about government funding. Don't you think that this slightly different? I, for example, as a taxpayer don't want to pay for someone's abortions at all.

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Date: 2012-08-23 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_milashka/
Well, bills presented in Congress typically talk about government funding, so no, it's no different, it's actually exactly what I was saying. I am talking about the wording of the bill talking about "forcible rape". That's what I am talking about, that's what's scary.

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